I am building a 650 from a kit and as I progress into the fuselage, I begin to realize the differences that exist between the 650 and the 601. As I move forward, I have had a desire to be able to communicate with other 650 builders in a more focused setting. No doubt, many of us are struggling with the same issues and being able to share with a group could be of benefit to us all. I am a first time builder and have found this ZAB and F site to be invaluable to me. I could not gain the knowledge, ideas and experiences of so many others in any other place as easily as this site allows and for that I am grateful. Still, I desire a more narrowed group for the 650. It seems we are in the shadow of the 601, from no picture builder guides specific to the 650 to falling into a Zodiac group where the lions share of builders at this time are 601 builders. 650 numbers will continue to increase and it would be nice to gather as a group to share and learn from each other. If anyone else feels as I do, please add your ideas and maybe the site director would create a 650 group. With all respect, Jerold Ebke