I was in the USAF a million years ago at Malmstrom AFB Great Falls MT. I wasn't in a flying assignment though, I was already a dentist back then (1977 - 1980) and we had more rockets than planes anyway. I tried to get assigned to flying staus... any flying status... but it never happened. There was no slot for a flight oral surgeon I guess.
I'm buying a 601 HDS that's 95% finished. Some of my friends tell me that only leaves 95% to do but I'm hoping that's not the case. I hope to pick it up in the next couple of weeks. and am hoping to have it airborne in a month. I'm paying a local company to do most of the work.
These are the jobs that I need to do:
sand rust off motor mounts and paint with primer Yes
sand rust of undercarriage and paint with primer Yes
fit cockpit floor cover no floor cover
fit fuselage front top cover Complet the fitting of same
fit bottom cowling " " "
fit top cowling " " "
fit canopy to frame Yes
fit canopy frame to fuselage (incl releases each side NO) I would
manufacture front tilt mechanism
fit rubber seal to canopy As yet I have been unable to source, I need same
for my airplane
fit wheel spats Refit
attach wings Yes
attach wing join cover strips Yes
check fuel tanks for rust flush
test fuel tanks & complete Fuel system for leaks & maybe replace rubber fuel
lines
test all fuel pumps for correct operation as above
fit batteries Batteries have been fitted
build and fit seats Yes
upholster cockpit sides Yes
Fit seat belts
carpet or line cockpit floor Yes
adjust prop to correct pitch Yes
check cooling system Yes, & fit new hoses
test engine at speed & check temp Yes
test instruments & radio Yes
fit altimeter over reading 2000FT
fit Southern hemisphere compass I cannot promise but I may have one
arrange inspection by RAA inspector Yes
Retrack & adjust PSR
Check all bungees
Refit coil splitter on firewall
Check nose leg up travel to radiator, fit donut to restrict same
Check travel of all flying surfaces
In general a complete Major inspection, weight & balance Etc Etc Etc
register & test fly
Greetings Chris.
Re photos, while the wings and empennage are done, the fuselage is still on stands at present. Perhaps a photo is not warranted yet.
Give me your thoughts please.
Peter
Hi Chris,
I received my plans in March 08 and haven't started to build yet, as I have been building a large extension to my house. I have also been to see Glenn Andressen at Mallacoota in early 08 when he had just started. We had a good visit and checked out his progress and his simulator. I hope to start flight training for my RA-Aus shortly and need to get a few things squared away here before I can start to build.
Regards, Chris
Hi Chris,
Am still at work actually, but when I am office bound I have an internet connection. I am looking at going to Avalon next month, are you going? how is your plane coming along, you must be very close. i just received the conversion parts for the new canopy latch, so will be fitting that this weekend. I am still using the old canopy, just changing the latch gear. After that is fitted I have a lot of riveting to do.
Cheers
Darryl.
Chris, yes those are venturi's one each side of my 601. I was operating a Directional gyro and a Horizontal gyro, however, I have removed those instruments. Now the venturi on each side is used to pull hot air from around the instrument panel. They have become my no moving parts cooling fans.
Chris, The horizon worked better than the DG. I think it was due to not being able to regulate the flow correctly for both units. Instead, I pulled them out and put in airspeed and altimeter for back up to the digital. I still have the two gyros and the system filter. If you are interested in any of the parts, let me know.
Glen
Its on my calender this year. Didin't make it last year but should be getting up on the Thursday. You have to arrive early to get a reasonable space thats not mile from the you know what.
Hi Chris, Spoke to a couple of friends at Hars to see if we can hire an plane to fly there for one of the days[ We could properly get the C47/DC3 if we get enough interest for next year] Cheers Alan
Hi Chris Yes I am flying up should be there sometime thursday
I am going to put my plane on my site this year
As I plan on doing some flying will I am up there
Haven't decided just yet few other things on that weekend I have to work around e.g. football etc. I assume that your allowed to camp from some of the photos I've seen? If I do come I will most likely end up using my swag for accommodation. Also have to calculate how long the drive will take as well. Be great to go for a demo flight to get the motivation levels going.
Hi Chris, I am well thanks.
I will definately be at Natfly from Friday to Monday. I did send you a message to let you know that I would be happy to help out with the BBQ as much as required.
I am just starting to get back into my building. I have been so busy with my son's sport and at work it's hard to make time at the moment.
Regards, Greg
Hi Chris, I am building a 601HD from plans only - it's a bit of a slog - think I would go for a kit in future - roughly 25% done - big 75% to go.
Have you decided on an engine for your XL ?
Cheers, John V
Yeah mate, since we have been flying I have foregotten to do that, we should place new pics' soon. Will get to it mate. How you been, we have only 11.4 hours so far due to weather... Very frustrating at the moment
Hi Chris, Sorry I haven't replied before but I've been working on the house to earn the brownie points to do the plane. The kit finally arrived on 22nd March and I've decided to get the wheels on to give it some mobility. I put the nosewheel on tonight after taking a couple of days to get a 1/4" tap for the bottom bearing. What surprises me is the effort you need to turn the nosewheel when the bungy is on. I haven't connected the rudder pedals to it yet. Is this normal or do the bearings need to be opened out? It's going to make the rudder control in the air very heavy unless the bearings 'wear in'. Everything went in to the plans except the top cap 6G2-3, which appears to be for an earlier version as my nosewheel strut has no fixings at the top for this metal cap. Looking into the tube all you can see is the tube supporting the bungy cord. Any comments would be good. PS haven't had any more newsletters other than the last you sent some time ago.
Hi Chris,
Last newsletter was Summer 08 09.
I'd be interested in a diagram of what's changed to the nosewheel. One of the guys on the Rec Flying website has done a mod involving a sort of bearing under the fixings for the steering rods which rolls on the nylon lower bearing. If nothing better is available I might do a version of that as I think the rudder in the air will be very heavy and put quite a strain on the rudder pedals.
Thank you for your Camloc reply. Would you be willing to take the time to expand your answer as to which Camlocs you used and where I might be able to gain info as to installation pocedure, I have seen 2600/2700 series. Some s.s., some coutersunk, retaining clips and on and on. Any further info would be greatly appreciated and help clarify the Camloc world for me. Best regards, Jerry
Hi Chris, I did send you a reply via Yahoo. I am about to start on my canopy and I may be interested in one of those from Todd's. I will let you know in another week one way or the other.. If you make it up here to Exmouth, it would be great to catch up for a chat and a glass or two.
Okay, now climb down from that Herc or whatever it is and get finished with that airplane! You're using a Jabiru 3300A, right? If so and if you are curious about the early sketchy first 3hours or so in the air, tag me back for the details.
I was pinched for time when I first replied to your suggestion, but I think your idea is likely to be the actual problem; at least I hope it is. If the problem is happening due to engine compartment CO leaking into the cabin from the upper/lower cowling joint as I first suspected, the implications are pretty disappointing. By that, I mean that if the environment under the cowling is that contaminated with exhaust leakage, I will never be able to use the cabin heat option that I paid for and worked to install. The cabin heat muff is not even remotely isolated from the engine compartment air, and if there is enough CO "under the bonnet" to leak out and darken my little chemical detector, I was going to be in deep crap if I ever opened up the cabin heat valve.
I will tape off the belly hatch as soon as I clean the soot off the bottom of the plane and install a little chromed exhaust "turn down" extension. If the gods are with me that will solve the issue.
My thanks and admiration for hitting the nail on the head. The taped off belly hatch solved the CO issue entirely. Today's 1.33 hour flight was CO free. I may get my decal maker to cut me several feet of 3" wide silver metalflake decal material to seal the hatch as a long term solution. That material sticks like mad and disappears into the silver metalflake paint.
I cut a hole in the top center of the rear wall of the baggage area. I mounted a 35 CFPM 4" muffin fan in the hole and wired it to a switch in the EXP BUS2V power center. I turned it on to assist in drawing in fresh air and evacuating the cabin air when the CO indication began inflight. Unfortunately, it did nothing to abate the CO detection level. My guess is that the CO entering from the belly hatch was too great for the fan to have any effect on it.
The fan will act as designed however to draw in fresh air through the eyeball vents when the plane is on the ground. That's what it was installed for. Inflight, there is already quite enough air being forced in from the NACA scoops through the eyeball vents to make the cabin temp comfortable, but even that apparently won't clear the CO if the exhaust is being syphoned in through the belly hatch. I will seal off the hatch in a way that allows me to get back in there anytime I need to. As far as I am concerned that problem is solved.
Now I have to figure out if my left tank sender is screwed or if I have a broken wire or bad ground. The indication from the tank was erratic today. Just another hurdle in the quest for flight brother.
Yeh, I got out of Qantas before I was chucked out like the rest of the guys:( Now consulting to CAE on training programs for the KC30A, pretty interesting! Starting to get a bit done on the HDS, just started the left wing.
Hi Chris,
Thank you. I bought my plans a long time ago, built a special garage to build my plane and then bought a Piper Colt. I sold that when I immigrated to Aus and have decided to start with the Zodiac. So far i am busy with the preparations like drawing out all the parts on Cadd and layoing these out on sheets for possible Laser or Water jetting. I will also do everything in 3D to do a bit of virtual building before i start. Where do you live. I am in Perth. I would really like to meet some builders in the area.
Hi Chris,
been in touch with zenith about it because I wanted to add to the order. They told me sport air probably won't arrange freight and as I'm in melbs anyway I asked them to ship mine direct to melbourne. As far as I'm aware it's being crated up atm for shippment. Hope I didn't cause any dramas for anyone. One of the guys rang me and said sport air were having a hard time atm and recomended dealing with it myself so I did.
Hi Chris
This is what I purchased from Jabiru. Volts, oil press, oil temp, cht, egt, asi, alt, vsi, turn coordinator, tacho, circuit breakers. There are two reasons for this. One is because their prices are competitive, and the other is because all of the instruments are painted with the operating colour codes. I just had them paint the markings on a new ASI for me as I mucked up the callibration of my first one trying to do it myself.
I also purchased all of my tefzel wire, AN fitting and heaps of other bit from them as well as recieving heaps of valuable advice direct from Rod Stiff and his staff.
The paint is Protec 472 epoxy self etching primer that you spray on two coats 5 mins flash dry between coats. After 30 mins you apply topcoat straight over top without sanding which is essential around rivets. The topcoat is is Protec 609 urethane and is applied in two medium wet coats 10 mins apart. It's as simple as that. Here is the Protec tech sheet link, http://www.protec.com.au/www/455/1001127/displayarticle/1001463.html
Hi Chris
I know what you mean about the trims. The Ray Allen stick grips themselves aren't to bad, but then when you start adding the trim servo, indicators, isolation switch, speed control, speed selector switch for cruise and circuit and earth isolation for the led's and of course 1A breaker to power the servo and a 1A breaker to power the indicators, it starts to get a little complicated doesn't it. Of course nearly all the wires being white doesn't help either. But it is all doable, just time and brain cell consummmmming.
What stage are you up to with your airframe? Please post some more pics.
Thanks Chris the plane is going just fine - beaut! we had some issues as my partner in the plane died, very unexpectedly, back in April but after some months of confusion I managed to buy his share from the executors so now own it all! I am still in the novice stages as I just have not had much cockpit time but the flying skills are all coming back very quickly. The plane is in Foxton (towards the south end of North Island) at present - but I hope to move it to Turangi (slap in the middle of NI) by 22 November when we have a 601XL fly in planned.
HELO CHRIS: I CHOSE THE GRT UNITS BECAUSE: THEY HAVE BEEN MAKING THE EIS (UNIT ON RIGHT) FOR 17 YEARS. WHEN THEY DEVELOP THE EFIS (UNIT ON THE LEFT) THEY JUST SERIAL THE EIS OVER TO THE EFIS. THEY MAKE BOTH VFR AND IFR UNITS. THIS IS THE SPORTS MODEL. (VFR) THE EIS CAN ALL SO BE REMOTELY MOUNTED. THE EFIS JUST HAPPEN TO BE ON THE ENGINE PAGE WHEN THIS PICTURE WAS TAKEN INSTEAD OF THE PFD PAGE. THEY HAVE A GOOD TRACK RECORD.THERE WEB IS (GRTAVIONICS.COM) IF YOU WANT TO CHECK THEM OUT. THIS WAS MY OPINION WHEN I PURCHASE IT APPROX. 1 1/2
YEARS AGO. I'M SURE OTHER AVIONICS HAVE CAUGHT UP BY NOW.
REGARDS
GENE 601SX
Dr. Edward M. Moody II
I was in the USAF a million years ago at Malmstrom AFB Great Falls MT. I wasn't in a flying assignment though, I was already a dentist back then (1977 - 1980) and we had more rockets than planes anyway. I tried to get assigned to flying staus... any flying status... but it never happened. There was no slot for a flight oral surgeon I guess.
Ed
Jan 4, 2009
Greg Wilson
I'm buying a 601 HDS that's 95% finished. Some of my friends tell me that only leaves 95% to do but I'm hoping that's not the case. I hope to pick it up in the next couple of weeks. and am hoping to have it airborne in a month. I'm paying a local company to do most of the work.
These are the jobs that I need to do:
sand rust off motor mounts and paint with primer Yes
sand rust of undercarriage and paint with primer Yes
fit cockpit floor cover no floor cover
fit fuselage front top cover Complet the fitting of same
fit bottom cowling " " "
fit top cowling " " "
fit canopy to frame Yes
fit canopy frame to fuselage (incl releases each side NO) I would
manufacture front tilt mechanism
fit rubber seal to canopy As yet I have been unable to source, I need same
for my airplane
fit wheel spats Refit
attach wings Yes
attach wing join cover strips Yes
check fuel tanks for rust flush
test fuel tanks & complete Fuel system for leaks & maybe replace rubber fuel
lines
test all fuel pumps for correct operation as above
fit batteries Batteries have been fitted
build and fit seats Yes
upholster cockpit sides Yes
Fit seat belts
carpet or line cockpit floor Yes
adjust prop to correct pitch Yes
check cooling system Yes, & fit new hoses
test engine at speed & check temp Yes
test instruments & radio Yes
fit altimeter over reading 2000FT
fit Southern hemisphere compass I cannot promise but I may have one
arrange inspection by RAA inspector Yes
Retrack & adjust PSR
Check all bungees
Refit coil splitter on firewall
Check nose leg up travel to radiator, fit donut to restrict same
Check travel of all flying surfaces
In general a complete Major inspection, weight & balance Etc Etc Etc
register & test fly
Cheers,
Greg.
Jan 24, 2009
Peter Carver
Re photos, while the wings and empennage are done, the fuselage is still on stands at present. Perhaps a photo is not warranted yet.
Give me your thoughts please.
Peter
Jan 26, 2009
Chris Hotchin
I received my plans in March 08 and haven't started to build yet, as I have been building a large extension to my house. I have also been to see Glenn Andressen at Mallacoota in early 08 when he had just started. We had a good visit and checked out his progress and his simulator. I hope to start flight training for my RA-Aus shortly and need to get a few things squared away here before I can start to build.
Regards, Chris
Jan 30, 2009
Chris Hotchin
Feb 5, 2009
Darryl Legg
Am still at work actually, but when I am office bound I have an internet connection. I am looking at going to Avalon next month, are you going? how is your plane coming along, you must be very close. i just received the conversion parts for the new canopy latch, so will be fitting that this weekend. I am still using the old canopy, just changing the latch gear. After that is fitted I have a lot of riveting to do.
Cheers
Darryl.
Feb 8, 2009
Glen West
Feb 16, 2009
Stuart Green
Havent done too much at all. I am in Germany at the moment. Hopefully get stuck into the cowls when I get back
Stuart
Feb 17, 2009
Glen West
Glen
Feb 17, 2009
John Livsey
Feb 22, 2009
Alan Kessler
Yes the black rotary switch is a EGT cylinder select, but I am using it for CHT only.
regaurds
Al
Feb 22, 2009
Zenith Australia
Im talking to Michael Heintz regarding the visit, I'll let you know soons whats happening :)
Feb 24, 2009
Alan Kessler
I purchase the switch from Aircraft Spruce part # 10-01266
Al
Feb 24, 2009
Craig Busbridge
I am now preparing to start work again. I have almost fully recovered from shoulder reconstruction surgery, that slowed me down somewhat.
Craig
Feb 25, 2009
Michael Heintz
Feb 26, 2009
Harry Mason
see you at natfly, looking forward to it.
Feb 26, 2009
Paul Hammond
might see you at NATFLY if we the fires dont burn us out
Feb 26, 2009
Alan
Feb 26, 2009
Allan / Zenair Australia
I am going to put my plane on my site this year
As I plan on doing some flying will I am up there
Feb 28, 2009
Jacob
Mar 3, 2009
Greg Cox
I will definately be at Natfly from Friday to Monday. I did send you a message to let you know that I would be happy to help out with the BBQ as much as required.
I am just starting to get back into my building. I have been so busy with my son's sport and at work it's hard to make time at the moment.
Regards, Greg
Mar 3, 2009
John Vidler
Have you decided on an engine for your XL ?
Cheers, John V
Mar 4, 2009
David Graham
Mar 6, 2009
Paul Hammond
Mar 8, 2009
Paul Toone
Mar 31, 2009
Paul Toone
Last newsletter was Summer 08 09.
I'd be interested in a diagram of what's changed to the nosewheel. One of the guys on the Rec Flying website has done a mod involving a sort of bearing under the fixings for the steering rods which rolls on the nylon lower bearing. If nothing better is available I might do a version of that as I think the rudder in the air will be very heavy and put quite a strain on the rudder pedals.
Apr 7, 2009
Jerold Ebke
May 8, 2009
Peter Lalor
Peter
May 13, 2009
Dr. Edward M. Moody II
Ed
May 21, 2009
Dr. Edward M. Moody II
Keep me posted as you progress.
Ed
May 22, 2009
Dr. Edward M. Moody II
Ed
May 24, 2009
Dr. Edward M. Moody II
I will tape off the belly hatch as soon as I clean the soot off the bottom of the plane and install a little chromed exhaust "turn down" extension. If the gods are with me that will solve the issue.
Thanks again,
Ed
May 24, 2009
Dr. Edward M. Moody II
Ed
May 25, 2009
Dr. Edward M. Moody II
Ed
May 30, 2009
Dr. Edward M. Moody II
The fan will act as designed however to draw in fresh air through the eyeball vents when the plane is on the ground. That's what it was installed for. Inflight, there is already quite enough air being forced in from the NACA scoops through the eyeball vents to make the cabin temp comfortable, but even that apparently won't clear the CO if the exhaust is being syphoned in through the belly hatch. I will seal off the hatch in a way that allows me to get back in there anytime I need to. As far as I am concerned that problem is solved.
Now I have to figure out if my left tank sender is screwed or if I have a broken wire or bad ground. The indication from the tank was erratic today. Just another hurdle in the quest for flight brother.
Ed
May 30, 2009
Robert Small
Yeh, I got out of Qantas before I was chucked out like the rest of the guys:( Now consulting to CAE on training programs for the KC30A, pretty interesting! Starting to get a bit done on the HDS, just started the left wing.
Cheers for now,
Bob
Jul 23, 2009
Johan Luies
Thank you. I bought my plans a long time ago, built a special garage to build my plane and then bought a Piper Colt. I sold that when I immigrated to Aus and have decided to start with the Zodiac. So far i am busy with the preparations like drawing out all the parts on Cadd and layoing these out on sheets for possible Laser or Water jetting. I will also do everything in 3D to do a bit of virtual building before i start. Where do you live. I am in Perth. I would really like to meet some builders in the area.
Cheers
Johan
Aug 9, 2009
Jacob
been in touch with zenith about it because I wanted to add to the order. They told me sport air probably won't arrange freight and as I'm in melbs anyway I asked them to ship mine direct to melbourne. As far as I'm aware it's being crated up atm for shippment. Hope I didn't cause any dramas for anyone. One of the guys rang me and said sport air were having a hard time atm and recomended dealing with it myself so I did.
Sep 2, 2009
Phill Barnes
Thanks for clarifying that or I might have got my WIRES crossed. That would be bad hey. Punn intended.
I appreciate your comment, thanks.
While I'm yacking, would you mind adding Karl Lindenthal to your mailing list for your newsletter. His address is, karllindenthal@gmail.com
Regards
Phill
Sep 5, 2009
Phill Barnes
This is what I purchased from Jabiru. Volts, oil press, oil temp, cht, egt, asi, alt, vsi, turn coordinator, tacho, circuit breakers. There are two reasons for this. One is because their prices are competitive, and the other is because all of the instruments are painted with the operating colour codes. I just had them paint the markings on a new ASI for me as I mucked up the callibration of my first one trying to do it myself.
I also purchased all of my tefzel wire, AN fitting and heaps of other bit from them as well as recieving heaps of valuable advice direct from Rod Stiff and his staff.
A good deal all round.
Regards
Phill
Sep 10, 2009
Phill Barnes
Firstly, thankyou for your comments.
The paint is Protec 472 epoxy self etching primer that you spray on two coats 5 mins flash dry between coats. After 30 mins you apply topcoat straight over top without sanding which is essential around rivets. The topcoat is is Protec 609 urethane and is applied in two medium wet coats 10 mins apart. It's as simple as that. Here is the Protec tech sheet link, http://www.protec.com.au/www/455/1001127/displayarticle/1001463.html
Regards
Phill
Sep 11, 2009
Phill Barnes
I know what you mean about the trims. The Ray Allen stick grips themselves aren't to bad, but then when you start adding the trim servo, indicators, isolation switch, speed control, speed selector switch for cruise and circuit and earth isolation for the led's and of course 1A breaker to power the servo and a 1A breaker to power the indicators, it starts to get a little complicated doesn't it. Of course nearly all the wires being white doesn't help either. But it is all doable, just time and brain cell consummmmming.
What stage are you up to with your airframe? Please post some more pics.
Phill
Sep 18, 2009
Mike Peake
Oct 23, 2009
GENE MAYO
YEARS AGO. I'M SURE OTHER AVIONICS HAVE CAUGHT UP BY NOW.
REGARDS
GENE 601SX
Oct 28, 2009