Hey Fred,

Still alive here.  Just got a bucking bar so I can start to install wing upgrade kit.  Might have to find a new place to assemble a/c come spring.  Moving an incomplete kit might be real fun.

Fred,

I'm following the WW method, (he has a 601 installation book for sale)
where the fuel line goes from the shutoff/selector switch (Andair)
through the right lower firewall and turns 90 degrees to the
gascolator.  Then it goes up 90 degrees through both facet pumps.....

So no holes in the floor.  "601/650 Corvair Installation Manual - 126
pages"  is available from :

http://flycorvair.com/products.html

Hope that helps,

I will be going to the hangar over the weekend.  I'll take some pictures of the the rivet "pusher" and the modifications.  This may save you a bit of time and will defifnitely keep you from beating on your plane and may save you from a series of oversized holes.

Ted 

Fred,

I added a cheap, computer fan, to exhaust hot air when plane has been sitting awhile in the sun.  Nothing fancy...probably something I saw somebody else do...

Mike

Fred, I went with Dan's 5th bearing at the time as he was the only one mass producing them at the time. His new billet 5th bearing looks great. Dan provides the tools to install for a deposit .. fairly straightforward to install with those tools. I recommend you reach out to Dan to compare the product and support.

Dave

Hi Fred

I am sorry that it is taking so long to send you the measurements you requested. I have it written down and I will endeavour to make a drawing with those measurements tomorrow arvo and send it to you.

Regards

Phill

Hi Fred,

Yes those are 3.125" instruments.  I added the switch panel and I have plenty of room for my legs, although in hindsight I could have forgone the modification.  I copied a friend of mines Zenith scratch built and thought it looked good and was a good idea.  Sorry for the late response.  Jeff

Hi Fred,

If you install the Marvel Schebler carb it has a primer .. I usually goose the throttle 2 or 3 times prior to starting. On a cold day it can take longer to get fuel up those risers to the heads .. fuel does not atomize as well on cold days. I used a new OT10 as recommended by William Wynne. You should be able to check the dimensions of the armrest from the plans.

Regards, Dave

Hi Fred,

I'll need to measure next time I'm at the hangar.

Dave

Hello Fred,

Thanks for the information, I will add the small venting holes to the fuel vents. I have been flying or about 12 years hefre in the surroundings of San Antonio and am no early done with building my own 601. I started of with rudder and tail kit and then switched to scratch build but I have bought some parts from Zenith (welding and fiberglass). I actually flew a 601 near you in Shenandoah valley as part of an early transition training when I was on business travel, but that 601 has since crashed due to fuel exhaustion.r

Regards,  Maarten

Hi, Fred--

Thanks for your nice comment on my profile. I am glad the carb/throttle quadrant info was helpful. It has been a while since CC17, that was a fun and informative gathering! To answer your question, my build is going so slowly that it is almost (but not quite) stagnant. I hope to accelerate that soon. I am presently President of my homeowner's association and that takes a lot of time. I also own, maintain and fly a 1947 Stinson, which takes far more time and effort than I anticipated to keep airworthy. It is two thirds of a century old, so I guess it deserves some time attention and money, but it sure does limit my Zenith time. Sigh. I guess that is not a bad problem to have, however, to be working on and flying a lovely old antique aircraft.

Let us all know on the group how your quadrant idea works out.

Regards, Bob

Thanks for looking into the shipping Fred. I've sent you a friend request. If you would, send me a message so we can work out the details.

Thanks again!

Thanks fro asking Fred. Yes, I'm going to add a fifth bearing and I'm thinking a new crank, so I shouldn't need the other parts. Thanks again though.

Got the case Saturday, and in good shape.

Thanks Fred!

Yes, that was fast.

Yep, found the bolts and all.

Fred,

Unfortunately I'm not going to be able to go - I have a wedding in Pittsburg that weekend.  I'm really bummed too, because I wanted to make it out there and also go to a Corvair college, so it could have been the perfect timing.  Oh well, nothing I can do about it now.  Thanks for the offer though - I'd totally take you up on it if I could have.

Mike

BTW I'd still like to take you up on your offer to see your project at some point soon.  Are you doing a 601 xl-b / corvair?

Hi Fred,  

Building really slowed down.  I moved and relocated everything (including my 601 kit.)  Finally getting some time to work on the 1st wing.  Starting with wing upgrade kit.  Will keep in touch.  So you bought a 5th bearing block and crank from WW?  I'm still on the fence with the 5th bearing......

Fred - Just wanted to let you know, one of the guys in my EAA chapter made the firewall passthru for me and didn't even charge me for it.  I already installed it and have my FWF fuel lines fully plumbed!!  

-Brian M

Good to hear from you, Frederick.

A guy in my EAA chapter tig-welded the passthru for me for free... I sent him the drawing from the FWF manual and he had it ready the next day.  That's all I needed to be able to finish plumbing everything from my fuel selector all the way to the engine.

I'm heading up to Roy's sometime next week, just have to confirm actual dates with him and then I'll be loading up the truck and driving up to Osseo MI.

Glad you got your stuff - I don't think it's an "intentional" thing on the other side of the order.  William is an eccentric guy and I can forgive a misplaced order for a $29 part, a part that in all actuality he probably rarely if ever gets an order for.

Anyway, hope you heal up real soon and are able to dig into your project!

Thanks

Brian M.

Thank you Fred.  The JIMCO regulator is a direct replacement for the john deere unit with the same wiring and specs.  It will work with any single phase permanent magnet alternator up to 20 amps.

Ken

Hi Fred,
Yes, I'm satisfied with Bill Clapp's Corvair (Aeromax). The engine I got was his first prototype 2700cc. I like his 5th bearing design which puts the (Chevy 350) thrust bearing right up front to transfer the thrust directly to the engine block rather than way back near the rear of the crankshaft. I used a Ford EDIS-6 ignition so I didn't use a distributor, and I made my own exhaust and intake system. I used the Rotec carb mounted about where the distributor would be. All of that is counter to the WW practice. The engine ran well for the 100 hrs I used it. I did notice that it had lost some compression on one cylinder. Valve leaking I think.  Bill is making more engines now than 4 or 5 years ago when I was getting mine and his new business is on firmer footing. I found the 2700cc lacking the power I wanted for my 601XL in summer high density altitude use. I'm building another Corvair now with larger bore and increased stroke. Brady McCormick is helping me. Brady had Magnificent Machine a few years ago until the poor economy put it under. That engine is almost done now. Unfortunately, the reason I went with Bill Clapp is the same reason you are now thinking of doing the same. WW was just unresponsive to anything and everything. I don't know what's wrong there, but something definitely is. I also didn't like WWs' attitude of doing it his way or the highway. You might also check with Dan Weseman to see about his offerings. You may get better luck from WW if you had your basic parts in hand and attended one of his Corvair Colleges. He does bring a lot of his stuff to those in hopes of selling something.

Let me know if you have questions on anything else.

Louie

        I'm not sure how to read him. I think that with the limited resources that I have, the one thing that I have the least of is time. When I get agitated about these suppliers not answering the phone or Emails it messes me up for a long time. I just stop working and do something else. I know that this is my personal issue but I've been told "That which is most personal is most universal."

         I'm sure other people have been "torpedoed" by the frustration of making a call (most every day for several weeks) and not getting a response. I wish I could just get past that, and get on with other parts of the build. I find that when I'm "on a roll' I'm feeling fine. Then I get this kind of thing going and I just want out of my garage, away from the source of the anger.  Usually riding my bicycle as far away as I can get. It preserves my sanity but it destroys my momentum.

                               Sorry for the rant

                                                  Tim

      You bet Larry. Tire rubber is a lot cheaper than a shrink and the results are immediate. I live in the Sonoma wine country where people actually pay what I do for free. Bike tours are big around here. Trying to stay in budget is a real issue. Time seems to bleed the money way. For you its diapers. for me its college tuition.

      According to WW there is a 'approved' machinist in Florida that Dan or William can hook us up with.

WW said he would try to stockpile the heads in his shop as well. I'd call Dan W to confirm though. I have lost faith in Mark P.

Like I said, I'm at a year for my distributor. I'm studying for my private pilot written for next Saturday. My check ride in 2 or three weeks.  I'm going to get a whole lot more interested in the supply issues when I'm done. I wonder if Zenith would like to know about our issues since they are hosting them for the CC?

                                      Tim

  I ordered the whole deal from him August of 13. He owes me the intake and exhaust, distributor, pistons, cylinders and rods and probably some other stuff as well. Its hard to keep up on exactly what he sent and didn't.

     I wish you luck. I feel that if I get too aggressive with him then I'll be blacklisted.

   He said that he'd ship me the stuff in a month. I'm giving him until I pass my check ride on the 26th(fingers crossed). I don't have the mental energy to do battle with so much on the line in the near future. Keep in touch!

             Tim K

         BTW I bet he'd respond from people like Zenith since they sponsored him at the factor????

   Any word Back from WW yet?

I'm sitting for the checkride Saturday. Wish me luck.

Passed checkride today. Finally! I failed on one aspect of my first ride and had to come back to do it over. It was such a bummer to have to wait so long to finish up!

     What a feeling to be called a Pilot!

         Tim K

   It felt like the pride of having a baby until I remembered it didn't take any brains to procreate!

Fred - I made the nosebowl trim rings by re-engineering a couple of recessed light trim rings.  I figured out a way to bend the flange so that the curve matches up with the contour of the nosebowl.  They're spun aluminum.  The spinner is a Vans FP-13 (13") fiberglass spinner -  the one recommended by WW.