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Adding right seat brakes.
I've searched the 750 page a bit, builder resources, and some good ol' fashioned Googling, but haven't happened upon what I expect is a simple find.
Currently installed are the Matco MC-5 brake cylinders, with built-in reservoirs. Matco says can't use a second set in-line with the first. So what about using the MC-4 that does NOT have a built-in reservoir? Or will I need to plumb a separate reservoir? And if so how will it affect the MC-5s currently installed.
Seems there's got to be a simple way to just tee into the existing system with a couple pistons, without having to go all MC-4s.
Thanks,
Conor
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Permalink Reply by Loren Warner on
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One set with reservoir and one without is what Zenith provides, if you order thier dual seat brake system. Photos of our brake system in our builders page may help what you're looking for www.facebook.com/pg/Experimental750ES The photo's are scattered because we take pictures and post as we work, and skip around during the build.
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Permalink Reply by James R Depfer Sr. on
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Conor,
I believe this attached drawing is what you want to do. It is from Matco tech support drawings page. If you purchased your brake kit from Zenith, I think the drawing is also in your Matco booklet.
This is what I have. I had my pilot brakes for a year before installing brakes on the co-pilot side.
Jim
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Zenith Drawing of Dual Brakes (pdf)Recommend rotating the right pedal cylinder brackets (75C3-8) on pilot and passenger side to get more wheel/rudder travel, and full piston travel of the bracket cylinder. For less strain on the polytube brake lines, we added a number of 45 degree elbows on the brake cylinders. Also, we placed our slave cylinders on the passenger side for better pilot observation.
Images of dual brakes cylinders (facebook)
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Permalink Reply by Conor Whitehead on
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Howdy Loren,
I finally got my right seat brakes installed. Definitely moved the MC-5s/reservoirs over to the right side. Primarily because I didn't want to re-run new brake line, there wasn't enough to make it work otherwise. I put the new MC-4 cylinders sideways, but still wish I had ordered a few different fittings vs the 90 degree ones with the kit. I'll get to making it nicer when I put new pads on again, and flush the system. Maybe a year I hope..
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Glad to hear it's coming together for you.
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Thanks a ton for all the pertinent info.
I'll be working the mod soon.
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Conor,
Check this thread....You may want to upgrade your brake cylinders also.
http://www.zenith.aero/group/stolch750/forum/topics/matco-brakes-we...
Jim
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Jim,
I had the intensifier kits installed, and now they're in the machine. Better braking than before, but barely. However, I did install larger tires simultaneously so can only imagine w/o the kit it would definitely be worse.
Thanks for the advice.
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For better braking you might want to read some of what Jan Eggenfellner shared on this post
https://www.facebook.com/Experimental750ES/posts/451574858556311
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