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Permalink Reply by John Bell on April 15, 2021 at 1:10pm

Thanks David. I did sand down the inner muffler side but still way off. I’ll try the old squeeze method with a 1-3/4” exhaust clamp. 

John

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Permalink Reply by John Bell on April 18, 2021 at 10:54am

All good. Had to use a 1-5/8 clamp but just kept tightening, rotating and tightening again all around for the first 3” and it now slides in easily but snug. Now just have to get the spring loops welded on.

Looks like I have the newer muffler with the support bracket and through tube so hopefully can avoid the cracking issues.

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Permalink Reply by David J. Beaulieu on April 18, 2021 at 5:00pm

John, consider cutting the length down a couple of inches after you fit up the cowl and see what you have for clearance from the underside of the bottom cowl.  You don't need much sticking out and it will reduce the force applied at the muffler flange by the tube.

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Permalink Reply by John Bell on April 18, 2021 at 8:07pm

How far outside the cowl is your pipe? I planned on about 5 inches raked towards the rear slightly but have seen many with a heck of a long run. 

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Permalink Reply by David J. Beaulieu on April 19, 2021 at 6:00pm

I will measure and send a pic next time at hangar...

Permalink Reply by David J. Beaulieu on April 26, 2021 at 6:45pm

John, here are a couple pics.  Looks like about 6" extension from the cowl exit and approx 3" below the cowl at the end.  Next time I take the tube off I will likely take off another 1" of length.

Permalink Reply by wmahon@mahon-cpa.ca on September 8, 2020 at 2:41pm

Yes.

I think there was a problem.

Mine cracked as well and had to be re-welded but  has since been fine.

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Permalink Reply by Timothy Aanerud on April 26, 2021 at 8:51pm

David,

Which style of muffler support brackets do you have?  The older ones that are shown in the Zentih UL-Power install guide show the brackets attaching to the motor mounts.

The brackets for my engine are much longer and attach to back of the engine case just below the upper motor mounts.

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Permalink Reply by David J. Beaulieu on April 27, 2021 at 6:17am

Tim, I had the older style which cracked after less than approx 50 hrs of engine time.  Ordered and installed the new version as you describe.  So far no issues and I thinnk there is much less bending stress on the bracket due to the increased length of the bracket and attach point on the engine.

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Permalink Reply by Timothy Aanerud on April 27, 2021 at 9:24am

The vibration from engine to muffler has to be different being attached to the engine verses the motor mount.   Hopefully ULPower did some statics/dynamics calculations to determine if this is better.

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Permalink Reply by David R Ferrell on May 17, 2021 at 11:32am

After having my cracked muffler welded 3 times in the course of 440 hours I ordered a new one from Wicks. Got it in about 10 days as they were out of stock. It is the new and hopefully improved version. We shall see!

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Permalink Reply by Douglas Kupersmith on May 24, 2022 at 9:29am

Add me to the list of broken mufflers now too.  No visible cracks during my annual last September (2021) at 76 hours, but in my last flight (99 hours) the tailpipe departed the airplane during landing roll out - broke off the entire flange at the weld (gusset too).  Please, no comments about my landing techniques.  Today I'm installing a new muffler and tailpipe I purchased from Keith at Wicks.

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